Talkuth Rel
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:28:00 -
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Ah, is it time for another round of "Whack-a-Goon" already? So much good material, where to start...
 Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
One item of note... I don't tell people what not to or what not to say or how to play Eve. Goons are permitted to do whatever it is they please at any given time.
Yes, of course, your oft-vaunted position that you have no control over the Goons whatsoever, and there is no unifying thought behind the alliance. You are the CEO of the largest alliance in the game, yet you conveniently abdicate all responsibility for those to whom you are in a position of leadership. If this is truly your position, how is anyone to believe that you will approach a position on the CSM with any greater sense of responsibility?
Also, you don't speak for the Goons, you don't tell them to do anything and simply let anyone do whatever they want, yet as LaVista has shown, you seem to be perfectly fine with instructing them on how to vote, and you expect them to heed your words. So which is it, do they follow your orders or not? You can't have it both ways. Frankly, I find you to be rather self-contradicting, you present one face to your own alliance, and a completely different one to the rest of the EVE public.
Oh, and of course, there's nothing at all incriminating in that thread, nothing except the little title at the top instructing your members to help "RIG THE VOTE"! Yeah, that's real great for building trust, isn't it? I know, you'll just claim it was another "joke." It's funny how many self-damning statements the Goons make that when they are confronted about them, the only defense they can offer is that it was a "joke." Maybe your sense of humor needs a tune-up, because you seem to be the only ones laughing.
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
I think that if you take a look at our presentation from Fanfest last year, or Bane's Titan manifesto, you'll have an example of what happens when we commit ourselves to accomplishing things. Like I said earlier, though we may be a bit flippant at times I wouldn't mistake that for a lack of concern or desire to do hard work. I'm a pretty hard working dude, who wants to see a better game myself. I wouldn't have paid to go to Iceland for a videogame conference I didn't care about.
I don't think I'd question that the Goons can accomplish things when motivated, or that you're hard-working. What I question is what goals both you personally and you as an alliance truly work for, what ideas motivate the Goons to action, and whether they're best for the game. Whether or not you can accomlish something is not the issue, whether or not whatever you accomplish will be a good thing is. You claim to care about the game, yet you as Goons continually work for it's destruction through efforts to make other players quit. I think it's safe to say your alliancemate was correct in saying that you play a completely different game from us. You have different goals and objectives, ones which are detrimental to the continuation of EVE. The fact that you can't see how contrary the Goon view is to the good of the game screams loudly about why you and yours should not be handed this type of power. Why should anyone believe that you won't use a position on the CSM to push your agenda, to try to make changes for the benefit of the Goons' goals?
I'll leave the voters with that to chew on for now, but I'm sure I'll be back for more. |